1 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:41,920 explore the bazaars or e-ticket ride 3 00:00:47,650 --> 00:00:44,380 into the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:47,660 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:51,970 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,460 --> 00:00:55,090 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,330 --> 00:00:57,470 cryptozoology as well as other 8 00:01:06,460 --> 00:01:01,340 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,550 --> 00:01:06,470 night now your electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:13,469 --> 00:01:09,560 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:20,650 --> 00:01:19,060 Tim Tim wake up wake up wake up I don't 12 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:20,660 want to be stuck out here on the 13 00:01:25,060 --> 00:01:23,210 extraterrestrial highway all night you 14 00:01:27,370 --> 00:01:25,070 have to get back to the Vegas for the 15 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:27,380 show and go to the bathroom 16 00:01:31,630 --> 00:01:30,890 what's gotten into you back Tim up 17 00:01:39,210 --> 00:01:31,640 halfway 18 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:44,080 you're what our favorite paranormal 19 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:46,610 researcher Joshua P Warren says he had a 20 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:49,730 time warp experience out there area 51 21 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:51,920 and I want to try and duplicate the 22 00:01:55,810 --> 00:01:54,320 results of his experience I knew all 23 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:55,820 along that there was something really 24 00:02:01,090 --> 00:01:58,250 weird something really weird some weird 25 00:02:04,390 --> 00:02:01,100 experiments at area 51 and and this 26 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:04,400 proves it well if you're going to go off 27 00:02:09,850 --> 00:02:06,890 to another dimension you better not stay 28 00:02:12,460 --> 00:02:09,860 long as we have a show to do can you 29 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:12,470 have back in the car I think I see some 30 00:02:18,009 --> 00:02:14,209 of those camo dudes head in our 31 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:18,019 direction check a scout or shooters or 32 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:19,730 whatever so let's go let's go let's go 33 00:02:24,789 --> 00:02:21,560 damn damn and I was just getting into 34 00:02:27,789 --> 00:02:24,799 this but ok I I was about to enter the 35 00:02:29,979 --> 00:02:27,799 twilight zone but oh I'll do it next the 36 00:02:32,020 --> 00:02:29,989 weekend when all those big events go on 37 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:32,030 out there near the 38 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:36,890 area 51 it's gonna be quite a weekend I 39 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:39,530 think between Vegas and blue alien in 40 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:43,450 everybody will be swaying to the beat of 41 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:47,330 god knows what but them that's the story 42 00:02:56,350 --> 00:02:52,250 we're going to find out tonight well 43 00:02:58,510 --> 00:02:56,360 there's been I think some confusion the 44 00:03:00,100 --> 00:02:58,520 media has been reporting that that 45 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:00,110 everything's been canceled and 46 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:02,720 everyone's been told to go home but you 47 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:05,840 know you being the inquisitive yeah 48 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:08,120 type of project you are I found out that 49 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:11,270 that's just a load of bull hockey yeah 50 00:03:15,610 --> 00:03:14,030 you know it's called research it just 51 00:03:17,590 --> 00:03:15,620 goes to show you how much research 52 00:03:22,150 --> 00:03:17,600 actually goes on in this field number 53 00:03:26,650 --> 00:03:22,160 I'm afraid yeah I made a couple of calls 54 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:26,660 out to the little alien in you know we 55 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:28,310 had one of the first events out there I 56 00:03:35,020 --> 00:03:31,370 think it was in 1993 we had a bill 57 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:35,030 Cooper we had a sky watch and we were on 58 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:38,049 the TV and got quite a bit of media 59 00:03:45,820 --> 00:03:42,790 coverage got stopped by the Sheriff's 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:45,830 Department that all you know that all 61 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:47,570 happens that you never can tell what's 62 00:03:52,060 --> 00:03:49,820 going to happen out there but I I 63 00:03:53,949 --> 00:03:52,070 checked it's a little alien in and and 64 00:03:56,890 --> 00:03:53,959 sure enough they said everything does 65 00:03:59,710 --> 00:03:56,900 ago they've got plenty of room for 66 00:04:03,509 --> 00:03:59,720 campers and they will have a fully 67 00:04:07,150 --> 00:04:03,519 stocked bar and lots of souvenirs and 68 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:07,160 the the bands are set to it to play in 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:09,950 fact I made the contact with the the 70 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:13,250 main man there they're out in Los 71 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:15,260 Angeles and they said they're there 72 00:04:20,170 --> 00:04:18,560 eager eager to play for the crowd that 73 00:04:22,719 --> 00:04:20,180 shows up and then of course there's 74 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:22,729 going to be a Conclave going on I think 75 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:27,350 it's several bars in and around Las 76 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:30,080 Vegas itself so there's going to be 77 00:04:37,150 --> 00:04:32,110 plenty to do it's going to be a big 78 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,160 weekend for the aliens I guess I suppose 79 00:04:42,159 --> 00:04:39,680 yeah if they're hiding out they won't be 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:42,169 hiding out too much longer I suspect so 81 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:44,330 Tim how you been how you been what's 82 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:51,340 damn are you out there my goodness is 83 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:52,220 anybody out there 84 00:05:02,200 --> 00:04:58,610 oh yeah I'm here oh I thought working 85 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:02,210 out had perhaps taking you away through 86 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:05,449 some underground bunker but why did you 87 00:05:09,850 --> 00:05:08,240 do we have a great guest on a personal 88 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:09,860 friend of mine somebody I've known for 89 00:05:18,969 --> 00:05:12,889 quite a few years that I'm eager to talk 90 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:18,979 to him about his experience out area 51 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:21,410 are pretty darn that close to it right 92 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:25,010 well tonight are one of our guests but 93 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:27,650 our first guest of the evening is Joshua 94 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,740 P Warren and it's just it's fortuitous 95 00:05:35,650 --> 00:05:32,479 that we were able to get him for 96 00:05:37,689 --> 00:05:35,660 tonight's show considering all the 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:37,699 activity that's that's going to be going 98 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:41,810 on in Nevada very soon but Joshua is an 99 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:44,150 investigator who pioneers the amazing 100 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:46,550 relationship between the mind energy 101 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:49,310 matter and strange phenomena he owns the 102 00:05:54,339 --> 00:05:51,770 haunted Asheville ghost tours in the 103 00:05:57,339 --> 00:05:54,349 Asheville mystery Museum and laboratory 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:05:57,349 in North Carolina plus the new creepy 105 00:06:03,969 --> 00:06:00,530 Vegas ghosts and UFOs show in Las Vegas 106 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:03,979 Nevada now josh is the author of over 20 107 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:06,560 best-selling books including used the 108 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:07,070 force 109 00:06:12,670 --> 00:06:09,680 a Jedi's guide to the law of attraction 110 00:06:15,310 --> 00:06:12,680 and the wishing machine workbook he's 111 00:06:17,589 --> 00:06:15,320 appeared on numerous TV programs on the 112 00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:17,599 History Channel Discovery National 113 00:06:23,969 --> 00:06:20,900 Geographic Animal Planet sci-fi TLC and 114 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:23,979 starred on the Travel Channel series 115 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:27,110 paranormal paparazzi now Warren travels 116 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:28,280 the world investigating mysterious 117 00:06:35,379 --> 00:06:31,250 phenomena and has made the cover of a 118 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:35,389 science journal in 2004 for lab 119 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:38,000 experiments regarding energy fields in 120 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:41,500 nature related to UFOs and the 121 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:42,710 enigmatika 122 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:44,780 Brown Mountain lights something you know 123 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:48,590 about Tim and the summer of 2018 Joshua 124 00:06:54,940 --> 00:06:50,900 made international news for discovering 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:54,950 a time anomaly north of Australia so to 126 00:06:59,939 --> 00:06:58,210 see his mind-blowing photos and videos 127 00:07:03,239 --> 00:06:59,949 glimpsing into 128 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:03,249 other realms visit his website at Joshua 129 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:06,280 P Warren dot-com so Joshua great to have 130 00:07:11,219 --> 00:07:08,050 you with us tonight on exploring the 131 00:07:12,809 --> 00:07:11,229 bazaar well thank you Tim and Tim it is 132 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:12,819 always a pleasure to speak with you and 133 00:07:19,260 --> 00:07:15,969 what is it what an exciting and weird 134 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:19,270 time we are exploring and living to see 135 00:07:23,219 --> 00:07:20,889 right now so it's good for this 136 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:23,229 conversation to transpire this evening 137 00:07:30,179 --> 00:07:26,110 well you know at Joshua I've known you 138 00:07:32,159 --> 00:07:30,189 now for a couple of decades we met for 139 00:07:35,429 --> 00:07:32,169 the first time in a swamp outside of 140 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:35,439 Syracuse a kind of a stomach semi swap 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:39,580 it was at a b-movie festival where you 142 00:07:46,850 --> 00:07:44,050 were showing one of your movies which I 143 00:07:50,189 --> 00:07:46,860 found rather entertaining I must say and 144 00:07:52,709 --> 00:07:50,199 we didn't know we met in a bar a couple 145 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:52,719 of times but we didn't really know who 146 00:07:57,809 --> 00:07:55,060 each other was I guess that's the best 147 00:07:59,700 --> 00:07:57,819 way for putting it it was until later 148 00:08:03,510 --> 00:07:59,710 that I discovered - you had written they 149 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:03,520 a book on haunted houses I believe when 150 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:06,310 I said well this is a rather young chap 151 00:08:11,429 --> 00:08:08,710 to be having I think it was what Simon's 152 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:11,439 Shuster as a publisher and of course I 153 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:13,089 found out later on that you were 154 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:15,069 probably the primary investigator for 155 00:08:20,129 --> 00:08:17,919 the Brown Mountain lights which is a 156 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:20,139 show in itself and I you know really 157 00:08:26,129 --> 00:08:22,870 wanting to get into that ghost lights 158 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:26,139 spook lights earth lights whatever 159 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:28,750 plasma a really weird if stuff that 160 00:08:33,569 --> 00:08:30,849 comes up out of the ground and chases 161 00:08:36,779 --> 00:08:33,579 people around that seems to be under 162 00:08:38,579 --> 00:08:36,789 intelligent control now josh has been 163 00:08:41,819 --> 00:08:38,589 all over the place he's of course like I 164 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:41,829 say in Asheville North Carolina he has 165 00:08:46,410 --> 00:08:44,800 his Museum there and he did a talk show 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:46,420 that I think I was on probably more than 167 00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:47,970 any other program over the years 168 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:51,550 speaking of strange and then he was went 169 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:53,620 out to of Puerto Rico for how many years 170 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:56,500 were you in Puerto Rico there well you 171 00:09:02,540 --> 00:08:59,170 know I visited for about 15 but I spent 172 00:09:04,889 --> 00:09:02,550 over five years there living 173 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:04,899 investigating the Bermuda Triangle in 174 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:07,180 general and you know obviously when 175 00:09:11,130 --> 00:09:09,190 Hurricane Maria hit that sort of put an 176 00:09:13,079 --> 00:09:11,140 end to my ability to work there 177 00:09:15,119 --> 00:09:13,089 effectively 178 00:09:17,459 --> 00:09:15,129 now how did you make it at all what I 179 00:09:19,079 --> 00:09:17,469 mean area 51 I don't think really had 180 00:09:23,939 --> 00:09:19,089 that much to do with you moving to Vegas 181 00:09:28,379 --> 00:09:23,949 is that right well I sensed that there 182 00:09:31,079 --> 00:09:28,389 was some moment about to occur where you 183 00:09:33,769 --> 00:09:31,089 know the Pentagon or whatever people 184 00:09:36,239 --> 00:09:33,779 were involved with the government 185 00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:36,249 experimentation we're on the verge of 186 00:09:41,129 --> 00:09:39,519 finally disclosing some things and you 187 00:09:45,359 --> 00:09:41,139 know one of the great things about my 188 00:09:48,659 --> 00:09:45,369 position is that I am independent I 189 00:09:51,569 --> 00:09:48,669 don't work for any corporation I'm not 190 00:09:54,689 --> 00:09:51,579 beholden to anyone nobody can fire me 191 00:09:58,079 --> 00:09:54,699 and so therefore because of that 192 00:10:01,499 --> 00:09:58,089 independence a lot of people trust me 193 00:10:06,029 --> 00:10:01,509 and they talked to me and I've proven 194 00:10:09,479 --> 00:10:06,039 for the past 25 26 27 years here that I 195 00:10:12,059 --> 00:10:09,489 don't betray my sources and I also don't 196 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:12,069 go out there trying to badger the 197 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:14,649 government or these folks that were 198 00:10:19,199 --> 00:10:17,049 involved with national security so I'm 199 00:10:22,499 --> 00:10:19,209 I'm in a good sort of balance position 200 00:10:24,659 --> 00:10:22,509 to sort of get some insight on what's 201 00:10:27,809 --> 00:10:24,669 happening and I knew some big things 202 00:10:30,599 --> 00:10:27,819 we're about to occur here in this area 203 00:10:33,149 --> 00:10:30,609 in this state and for those who are 204 00:10:38,339 --> 00:10:33,159 listening who don't know this Nevada is 205 00:10:42,329 --> 00:10:38,349 owned 86% by the government more than 206 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:42,339 any other state and so it's funny 207 00:10:45,629 --> 00:10:43,929 because in Puerto Rico it was kind of 208 00:10:47,669 --> 00:10:45,639 like I was on an island surrounded by 209 00:10:50,969 --> 00:10:47,679 water and now here I'm on an island 210 00:10:54,089 --> 00:10:50,979 surrounded by desert and sand it's it's 211 00:10:58,499 --> 00:10:54,099 it's a it's a really it's a fun place 212 00:11:02,999 --> 00:10:58,509 but it also is a place that is very easy 213 00:11:06,209 --> 00:11:03,009 to guard and barricade and there are 214 00:11:08,999 --> 00:11:06,219 just vast vast vast swaths of the desert 215 00:11:10,469 --> 00:11:09,009 land where you won't find anything I 216 00:11:12,119 --> 00:11:10,479 mean you don't have a cell phone signal 217 00:11:14,969 --> 00:11:12,129 you're not going to find a gas station 218 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:14,979 for two hours here on your own out there 219 00:11:33,630 --> 00:11:26,810 right and so being here did have very so 220 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:33,640 when in 1993 we had a conference the 221 00:11:41,620 --> 00:11:38,180 alien in one of the locations this 222 00:11:44,050 --> 00:11:41,630 coming a week where some justice will be 223 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:44,060 taking place in their area fifty year 224 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:47,230 one where I ran out of yeah you know 225 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:49,820 people wanted me make sure you know you 226 00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:51,530 got full pipe before yeah 227 00:11:54,970 --> 00:11:53,120 you leave Vegas because there isn't a 228 00:11:56,770 --> 00:11:54,980 station for what that's sixty or ninety 229 00:11:58,630 --> 00:11:56,780 miles and for some reason I forgot 230 00:12:00,910 --> 00:11:58,640 because I had a convertible I had to 231 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:00,920 pretty little girl for sputtering and 232 00:12:05,170 --> 00:12:02,990 spitting and came to a halt on the side 233 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:05,180 of the the road if it wasn't for a 234 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:07,490 kindly gentleman and his family who 235 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:11,120 stopped and siphon some gas for us I 236 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:12,890 would be a marshmallow today in the 237 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:15,830 desert so you got to take precautions if 238 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:17,690 you're going out there you got to make 239 00:12:23,260 --> 00:12:20,210 sure that you got a full tank of gas you 240 00:12:25,270 --> 00:12:23,270 got to make sure that you've got plenty 241 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:25,280 of water into a drink and that your 242 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:27,590 tires are not going to flood on you 243 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:29,510 because I don't know if triple-a will 244 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:31,910 come out and pick you up yeah well you 245 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:33,200 have to get in touch with triple-a 246 00:12:38,380 --> 00:12:36,440 somehow and you know this is I think one 247 00:12:41,170 --> 00:12:38,390 of the most significant things that we 248 00:12:44,950 --> 00:12:41,180 can get into tonight given where we are 249 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:44,960 historically here so I am in this 250 00:12:50,740 --> 00:12:47,330 position where I have information coming 251 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:50,750 at me from all over the place and I am 252 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:54,110 NOT going to personally go to area 51 253 00:12:58,060 --> 00:12:57,230 because for one thing I mean I've been 254 00:13:00,610 --> 00:12:58,070 there before 255 00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:00,620 but in this particular case I mean I 256 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:02,360 have friends who were going to go there 257 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:04,250 and tell me what happened and correspond 258 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:06,890 with me but here's what I have been 259 00:13:13,570 --> 00:13:11,390 doing I've been keeping tabs on how this 260 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:13,580 is being handled by the government and 261 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:15,440 by the local and the mainstream media 262 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:18,890 and I have to tell you both and this is 263 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:21,890 an all honesty now I have a lot of 264 00:13:26,380 --> 00:13:23,780 friends in the media around here and 265 00:13:28,450 --> 00:13:26,390 they've been very kind to me and I have 266 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:28,460 been on the television numerous times 267 00:13:34,090 --> 00:13:30,710 just over the past year and a half here 268 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:34,100 and without naming any names or being 269 00:13:40,030 --> 00:13:37,070 too specific I want you to know that I 270 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:40,040 believe there has been a 271 00:13:47,110 --> 00:13:43,100 concerted endeavor in order to tell the 272 00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:47,120 media stop talking about this that it 273 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:49,550 bites simply talking about it it's going 274 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:54,880 to encourage it and the the reasonable 275 00:14:00,699 --> 00:13:57,680 explanation is well look people don't 276 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:00,709 realize how remote this is it could be a 277 00:14:04,749 --> 00:14:03,170 humanitarian disaster if we have all of 278 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:04,759 these people who get out there and they 279 00:14:09,939 --> 00:14:06,980 don't properly prepare and that's a very 280 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:09,949 valid point but it's also a convenient 281 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:13,910 point because when you when you decided 282 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:15,850 to release this book called area 51 283 00:14:22,809 --> 00:14:19,220 warning keep out you and I had talked 284 00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:22,819 him about what kind of media response we 285 00:14:28,689 --> 00:14:25,519 were going to get as we got closer and 286 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:28,699 closer to September 20th and it sure 287 00:14:35,319 --> 00:14:32,930 does seem does it not like something has 288 00:14:37,629 --> 00:14:35,329 happened here to squash this 289 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:37,639 conversation that was so hot about a 290 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:42,560 month ago yes because I think to some 291 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:45,620 degree it has a lot to do with the the 292 00:14:51,790 --> 00:14:48,230 confusion as to what exactly is going to 293 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:51,800 go on it seems like some people in fact 294 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:53,690 some of those that are responsible for 295 00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:56,510 having even gotten the ball rolling on 296 00:15:00,699 --> 00:14:58,160 this have been sending out mixed 297 00:15:02,980 --> 00:15:00,709 messages and have told people that the 298 00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:02,990 event is going to be canceled and that 299 00:15:08,319 --> 00:15:05,300 they are the only event in town which 300 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:08,329 will be held in and Las Vegas proper and 301 00:15:13,090 --> 00:15:10,639 that's just not the case 302 00:15:15,370 --> 00:15:13,100 now you know it kind of reminds me of 303 00:15:17,470 --> 00:15:15,380 Woodstock in a sense you know because 304 00:15:19,660 --> 00:15:17,480 the people that live in Reichle are 305 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:19,670 worried that the people are going to 306 00:15:25,150 --> 00:15:22,310 come out there and ruin their lawns 307 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:25,160 they have no lawns Josh I mean let's 308 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:27,529 let's face it it's all rocking rubble 309 00:15:32,829 --> 00:15:30,529 and stubble and a few Australia but 310 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:32,839 creatures that wander across the the 311 00:15:37,629 --> 00:15:35,569 highway are there there is a course 312 00:15:40,210 --> 00:15:37,639 besides the little alien in I believe 313 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:40,220 there's a there is the extraterrestrial 314 00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:41,990 Highway you've got a couple of signs up 315 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:46,189 there in fact in the in the book area51 316 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:48,170 morning keep out we got a phone a nice 317 00:15:53,850 --> 00:15:50,720 phone review standing under the the the 318 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,860 highway a sign so I 319 00:15:58,019 --> 00:15:55,600 I'm not too worried I mean people I 320 00:16:00,660 --> 00:15:58,029 think realized by now what the 321 00:16:03,740 --> 00:16:00,670 circumstances are and there'll be enough 322 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:03,750 people on the highway this time at least 323 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:06,130 that if something happens I'm sure 324 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:08,170 somebody'll have a literally a gas or 325 00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:10,089 some water or something so I I think 326 00:16:14,699 --> 00:16:12,190 that that's being used as you say is a 327 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:14,709 convenience to get people not to come 328 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:17,170 out there because frankly it seems like 329 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:20,410 the the sheriff there the Lincoln County 330 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:23,649 police I just don't like people you know 331 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:26,350 that coming out there and barging in I 332 00:16:33,090 --> 00:16:29,500 don't think I'm if you ask me now Josh 333 00:16:34,769 --> 00:16:33,100 is anything going on at area 51 I would 334 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:34,779 say probably not for the last couple of 335 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,089 years the the aliens of all packed their 336 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:39,279 bags and gone off somewhere else and 337 00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:42,730 probably the military is carrying on 338 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,279 whatever they're doing further either 339 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:47,440 further out in the desert or somewhere 340 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:49,769 else altogether you know there are these 341 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:54,190 so-called secret bases all over the all 342 00:16:59,699 --> 00:16:55,600 over the world I mean they're not just 343 00:17:01,290 --> 00:16:59,709 an area 51 there's one in England that 344 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:01,300 we've written about in the book there's 345 00:17:07,289 --> 00:17:04,390 a course Pine Gap in Australia even 346 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:07,299 though the Russians have their own place 347 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:10,770 where they are testing back-engineered 348 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,569 technology or keeping an alien era or 349 00:17:17,159 --> 00:17:15,280 two sitting around there you know I 350 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:17,169 don't know I mean what what's your take 351 00:17:21,329 --> 00:17:19,030 on this do you think anything is going 352 00:17:23,789 --> 00:17:21,339 on out there I certainly do and I'll 353 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:23,799 tell you why I thought free for years 354 00:17:28,919 --> 00:17:26,530 well everybody knows so why would they 355 00:17:31,890 --> 00:17:28,929 still have anything happening there when 356 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:31,900 you have Utah and Tonopah and these 357 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:33,760 certain areas where you hear other 358 00:17:37,380 --> 00:17:36,010 stories but other bases here there are 359 00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:37,390 two things I want to share with you 360 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:41,860 about this number one is area 51 as we 361 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,230 call it was constructed primarily in the 362 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:47,200 50s and 60s when there was still quality 363 00:17:53,730 --> 00:17:50,380 work being done and you can't just take 364 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:53,740 that facility and lift it up overnight 365 00:17:58,049 --> 00:17:55,750 and put it somewhere else 366 00:18:00,810 --> 00:17:58,059 this area is too perfect it's too 367 00:18:02,909 --> 00:18:00,820 protected it's too secure and I don't 368 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:02,919 think that there's any need for them to 369 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:05,890 do it but secondly people are still 370 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:07,210 seeing and 371 00:18:12,029 --> 00:18:09,490 documenting things here that are 372 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:12,039 incredible and I want to tell you before 373 00:18:18,149 --> 00:18:14,830 we go to the break this is for you and 374 00:18:20,130 --> 00:18:18,159 Tim and Tim and all the listeners I want 375 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,140 you to see a brand-new piece of video 376 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:22,960 footage that last one minute that I'm 377 00:18:29,130 --> 00:18:27,010 calling the Vegas tick-tack-toe UFO 378 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:29,140 actually I guess it's the tic-tac UFO 379 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:31,210 don't need the tow in there the Vegas 380 00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:35,710 tic-tac UFO and basically this was shot 381 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:38,740 by my friend Steve Barone who is an 382 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:41,860 investigator here I know him well and I 383 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:43,960 could tell you more about him after the 384 00:18:48,389 --> 00:18:46,450 break but basically I want you to see 385 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:48,399 this because I want us to discuss it 386 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:51,490 this was shot weeks ago okay so this is 387 00:18:55,950 --> 00:18:53,770 not some kind of old thing I believe 388 00:18:58,380 --> 00:18:55,960 this is an example of an alien 389 00:19:00,299 --> 00:18:58,390 technology that's still zipping around 390 00:19:02,669 --> 00:19:00,309 here because there's no way the 391 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:02,679 government would be taking a projectile 392 00:19:07,950 --> 00:19:05,260 like this and and firing it around a 393 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:07,960 highly populated place like Las Vegas if 394 00:19:13,230 --> 00:19:10,990 you go to Joshua P Warren comm there's 395 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:13,240 no period after the P go to Joshua p1 396 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:16,090 comm yes I'm a business man you have to 397 00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:18,760 click the link to my curiosity shop it's 398 00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:20,260 it's right there at the menu at the top 399 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,990 but when you scroll down to the bottom I 400 00:19:28,139 --> 00:19:25,120 just posted this yesterday or the day 401 00:19:31,139 --> 00:19:28,149 before you will see this one-minute 402 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:31,149 edited video and the funny thing is 403 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:33,850 there's a ball of light that Steve 404 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:38,289 Barone was filming from his deck and he 405 00:19:43,139 --> 00:19:40,510 goes out almost every night he's retired 406 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:43,149 and he's just films and that's all and 407 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:46,049 as he's filming you see this tic tac 408 00:19:52,169 --> 00:19:49,570 maybe it's a cigar shaped object that 409 00:19:55,289 --> 00:19:52,179 fires from right to left across the 410 00:20:00,500 --> 00:19:55,299 stream and or across the screen and 411 00:20:06,029 --> 00:20:00,510 streaming behind it is some kind of very 412 00:20:09,539 --> 00:20:06,039 visible propelling energy and this is 413 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:09,549 not a bug this is not dust this is not 414 00:20:14,970 --> 00:20:12,159 some you know moisture I mean I I study 415 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:14,980 this stuff all the time and this is a 416 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:18,700 structured luminescent cylinder that is 417 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:21,010 going by at a great rate 418 00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:24,130 speed with this again propelling energy 419 00:20:28,530 --> 00:20:26,200 almost like a plasma which you can 420 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:28,540 clearly see behind it so I want you to 421 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:30,970 look at that and we can talk more about 422 00:20:36,030 --> 00:20:33,250 the context of that but the reason I 423 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:36,040 bring this up is these things are still 424 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:38,290 flying around here people are still 425 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:41,290 seeing them people are still documenting 426 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:42,730 them as long as they're looking up 427 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:44,410 instead of looking at their cell phones 428 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:47,200 which is how 70% of the people are these 429 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:51,370 days and I guarantee you that area 51 is 430 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:53,290 still an active base it is not 431 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:55,480 Disneyland which is why that people 432 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:57,070 shouldn't think they should just jump in 433 00:21:02,760 --> 00:20:58,810 the car let's go have a big party there 434 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:02,770 this is a place that is possibly more 435 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:06,280 active than ever because that it now has 436 00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:09,610 become come more well it has become more 437 00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:12,580 difficult than ever to reproduce things 438 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:15,820 secretly that we were able to produce in 439 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:18,930 the 50s to 60s in the 70s 440 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:22,660 so now you you you're convinced that 441 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:24,790 this is extraterrestrial instead of 442 00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:27,310 reverse engineered that's right 443 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:29,590 and the reason I say that is I don't 444 00:21:35,490 --> 00:21:31,810 think something traveling at this rate 445 00:21:38,370 --> 00:21:35,500 of speed would be shot around this area 446 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:38,380 which is so populated with tourism you 447 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:41,560 know you got helicopters planes drones I 448 00:21:45,090 --> 00:21:43,510 mean this would be a disaster if 449 00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:45,100 something traveling at this rate of the 450 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:47,830 speed hit any of those things they're 451 00:21:52,350 --> 00:21:49,330 not going to do that why would you do 452 00:21:54,270 --> 00:21:52,360 that this is an extraterrestrial er 453 00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:54,280 inter-dimensionally controlled object 454 00:22:00,660 --> 00:21:57,340 because it's able to for one thing be 455 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:00,670 rather compact travel this way in this 456 00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:03,190 area and navigate in such an 457 00:22:09,330 --> 00:22:07,180 extraordinary manner so I just that 458 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:09,340 alone makes me think we're not looking 459 00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:11,050 at something that's been back engineered 460 00:22:16,410 --> 00:22:12,430 we're looking at the genuine article 461 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:16,420 here now we're well okay so people go to 462 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:19,350 your website Joshua pew warned calm and 463 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:22,330 in fact I'm right there now what what 464 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:24,550 would they click on at the menu at the 465 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:26,770 top it says Curiosity Shop that's where 466 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:28,990 I have all my strength wares and little 467 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:30,580 odd things that you're not going to find 468 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:31,930 anywhere else on the internet that I 469 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:34,330 sell and if you scroll down to the 470 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:34,750 bottom 471 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:38,320 that page you'll see I just posted this 472 00:22:43,950 --> 00:22:42,100 one-minute video and it's you know when 473 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:43,960 you watch this thing first off you're 474 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:46,210 going to see it repeated a few times and 475 00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:49,020 then you're gonna see it slowed down and 476 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:52,600 you know over the years i-i've I back in 477 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:55,120 the day I knew that rods were a bunch of 478 00:23:04,410 --> 00:22:58,090 bull and all that like I mean I this is 479 00:23:08,010 --> 00:23:04,420 this is a tic-tac UFO zipping across Las 480 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:08,020 Vegas it's the real deal you can see the 481 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:10,930 stream of what may even be plasma behind 482 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:12,970 it which is propelling it forward and 483 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:15,570 it's funny because when my friend Steve 484 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:19,390 was out there videotaping he was just 485 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:22,330 focused on that ball of light which I 486 00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:23,860 don't even know what that is either 487 00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:28,150 frankly but then this thing goes 488 00:23:33,030 --> 00:23:31,240 shooting by and I just finished filming 489 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:33,040 something with the Discovery Channel 490 00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:34,720 show that comes out later this year 491 00:23:39,930 --> 00:23:37,390 called Rob Riggle global investigator 492 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:39,940 Rob Riggle is a comedic actor who's the 493 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:41,530 host of this new show where he's out 494 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:43,510 exploring mysteries but the thing about 495 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:46,270 Rob Riggle is in reality he's a retired 496 00:23:52,170 --> 00:23:49,570 lieutenant colonel in the Marines he saw 497 00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:52,180 active duty he's decorated I sat down 498 00:23:56,690 --> 00:23:54,700 with him and watched this and he 499 00:23:58,740 --> 00:23:56,700 couldn't explain it either 500 00:24:00,240 --> 00:23:58,750 alright gentlemen let me interrupt you 501 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:00,250 here because we have about 30 seconds 502 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:01,510 before we have to go to our break when 503 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:03,010 we come back we'll continue our 504 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:05,530 conversation with Joshua P Warren on 505 00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:22,110 now back to exploring the bazaar with 506 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:24,700 two of the most electrifying researchers 507 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:28,000 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 508 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:34,330 Lee and Taylor Swift's welcome back to 509 00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:36,190 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz 510 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,800 tonight we're talking with Joshua P 511 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:40,720 Warren a little bit later in the show 512 00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:42,760 we're going to bring in Paul Dale 513 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:45,220 Roberts to join us and continue our 514 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:49,330 conversation about area 51 so Joshua now 515 00:24:57,450 --> 00:24:52,930 continuing our conversation before our 516 00:25:00,270 --> 00:24:57,460 break about this amazing UFO video that 517 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:00,280 that you've got on your website why 518 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:02,650 don't you give our listeners a little 519 00:25:08,730 --> 00:25:06,640 bit of an idea of where this video was 520 00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:08,740 shot what what direction the camera was 521 00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:11,550 pointing and that sort of thing ok so 522 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:15,580 this gentleman Steve Barone he lives on 523 00:25:20,490 --> 00:25:17,650 the edge of what's called the Red Rock 524 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:20,500 Canyon so basically what that means is 525 00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:24,010 Las Vegas is in a valley and the valley 526 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:26,470 of course the strip as we know it runs 527 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:28,450 from north to south and it's surrounded 528 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:30,690 by these very tall mountains up to 529 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:34,630 12,000 feet high and on the western side 530 00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:36,850 you have the Red Rock Canyon that is 531 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:39,940 where Steve Barone has his deck where he 532 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:42,010 goes out at night and he films things 533 00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:45,850 with his cameras now when I first met 534 00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:49,180 him it was because I was introduced to 535 00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:52,000 him by a producer and I went over to his 536 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:54,070 house with Murray the magician that 537 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:55,840 you've probably seen on TV Murray the 538 00:26:01,080 --> 00:25:57,970 magician has a show at the Tropicana 539 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:01,090 here on the Vegas Strip and we tried to 540 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:05,230 fool Steve Barone so Murray went out and 541 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:06,910 we should we documented this with a film 542 00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:10,900 crew Murray flew up a drone and he's a 543 00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:12,760 magician you know and he made the drone 544 00:26:17,820 --> 00:26:15,040 do all these weird things and Steve 545 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:17,830 identified it as a drone and then Murray 546 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:20,410 sent up Chinese lanterns and that those 547 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:22,030 ride into fight and we did two or three 548 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:23,170 things and what 549 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:25,090 I was there what I can tell you about my 550 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:26,560 personal presence 551 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:29,140 Steve Barone was able to differentiate 552 00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:32,650 between drones helicopters Chinese 553 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:36,070 lanterns airplanes etc so the guy goes 554 00:26:41,550 --> 00:26:39,040 out every night and he has debunked some 555 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:41,560 of his own videos and I'm as a matter of 556 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:44,170 fact there was one video that I used to 557 00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:46,690 show and the creepy Vegas ghosts and 558 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:49,060 UFOs show that he came out to me later 559 00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:51,220 and said I've figured out that actually 560 00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:55,240 was not what I thought it was so he just 561 00:26:59,790 --> 00:26:57,100 he's the tell you he goes out and he 562 00:27:03,740 --> 00:26:59,800 films this stuff and so what we are 563 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:03,750 seeing here and I saw the raw footage 564 00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:07,360 before and after again 565 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:08,800 I've sat there with a number of people 566 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:11,290 and analyzed this and what you're seeing 567 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:15,670 is looking from west to east across the 568 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:18,850 Las Vegas Strip from his position on the 569 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:21,370 Red Rock Canyon there again is this ball 570 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:24,070 of light and we have this call it a 571 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:27,730 cigar shape call it a tic-tac whatever 572 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:31,710 that goes zipping from right to left and 573 00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:36,880 it just it has a nice structure to it I 574 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:40,060 mean it's yeah he slows it down a little 575 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:42,490 bit and some of his videos are sped up 576 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:45,190 so you can see what he's talking about 577 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:46,870 in terms of the direction these things 578 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:49,590 can be going in this case it slowed down 579 00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:53,770 in order to see this tic-tac object 580 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:55,990 speeding and what I think is most 581 00:28:02,130 --> 00:27:58,570 amazing as that little plume that comes 582 00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:02,140 off the back of it so now how do we 583 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:04,300 explain something like this I mean what 584 00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:06,730 is that you guys you've seen all you've 585 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:08,860 been documenting this stuff for decades 586 00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:12,370 how would you explain that well now let 587 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:14,950 me ask you this Josh does as he take it 588 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:18,970 to anything in the daytime uh I don't 589 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:21,790 know how much he has or has not gone out 590 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:23,920 during the day I know he likes to use 591 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:26,140 light-sensitive cameras and you know 592 00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:27,490 here's one of the things you have to 593 00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:29,260 understand if I take out a flashlight 594 00:28:36,810 --> 00:28:33,550 and I shine it in your direction in 595 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:36,820 broad daylight I'm gonna be lucky if you 596 00:28:40,139 --> 00:28:37,289 know 597 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,149 but if I shine that flashlight at you in 598 00:28:46,139 --> 00:28:42,399 its dark it stands out what we're 599 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:46,149 talking about here is the distinction 600 00:28:52,289 --> 00:28:49,450 right we're talking about the definition 601 00:28:55,229 --> 00:28:52,299 and so I can see why yes there are 602 00:28:57,450 --> 00:28:55,239 people who see UFOs during the day and 603 00:28:59,489 --> 00:28:57,460 document them during the day but I think 604 00:29:05,310 --> 00:28:59,499 it's much more likely that they stand 605 00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:05,320 out at night well know what is it do you 606 00:29:12,329 --> 00:29:09,549 think about that area that seems to 607 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:12,339 attract UFOs now of course you know some 608 00:29:16,499 --> 00:29:13,929 people say oh well you know it's because 609 00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,509 they're based at area 51 but do you 610 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:17,919 think that's the case or do you think 611 00:29:23,099 --> 00:29:19,089 there's something else going on 612 00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:23,109 well this state Nevada is known as the 613 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:26,830 Silver State but it also has a lot of 614 00:29:32,129 --> 00:29:30,369 gold there I mean this whole place you 615 00:29:35,489 --> 00:29:32,139 know it on the surface it looks like 616 00:29:39,749 --> 00:29:35,499 yeah it's just barren wasteland right 617 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:39,759 but no you go down below and we have 618 00:29:43,639 --> 00:29:41,950 some of the richest minerals in the 619 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:43,649 world and minerals that are highly 620 00:29:51,749 --> 00:29:48,190 conductive and minerals that create 621 00:29:54,299 --> 00:29:51,759 these bizarre electromagnetic anomalies 622 00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:54,309 and you know right next door we have 623 00:29:58,889 --> 00:29:56,830 Arizona they call it the copper state we 624 00:30:03,389 --> 00:29:58,899 have a ton of stuff happening in Arizona 625 00:30:05,459 --> 00:30:03,399 so I believe that there is some element 626 00:30:07,769 --> 00:30:05,469 well maybe I shouldn't use that word 627 00:30:10,529 --> 00:30:07,779 because it's a little too convenient but 628 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:10,539 there there's some characteristic of 629 00:30:16,489 --> 00:30:13,570 this part of planet Earth that makes it 630 00:30:19,049 --> 00:30:16,499 especially conducive to these strange 631 00:30:22,229 --> 00:30:19,059 electromagnetic fields that we associate 632 00:30:26,249 --> 00:30:22,239 with all paranormal phenomena but 633 00:30:28,859 --> 00:30:26,259 especially maybe guidance systems that 634 00:30:31,589 --> 00:30:28,869 could be used from or by these beings 635 00:30:32,669 --> 00:30:31,599 that there are certain highways certain 636 00:30:36,779 --> 00:30:32,679 latitudes 637 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,789 certain avenues that sort of stand out 638 00:30:41,609 --> 00:30:39,279 when this planet is being traversed by 639 00:30:46,379 --> 00:30:41,619 these other intelligences and so places 640 00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:46,389 like Nevada may have naturally attracted 641 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:49,940 these beings because of its composition 642 00:30:55,630 --> 00:30:53,450 and of course it's like the line from 643 00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:55,640 the Mothman Prophecies you notice them 644 00:31:01,450 --> 00:30:57,620 and they notice that you notice them and 645 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:01,460 so suddenly we have this evolution where 646 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:04,550 more and more strange stuff has happened 647 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:07,760 here over the years and then the US 648 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:08,690 military 649 00:31:13,570 --> 00:31:11,510 they took notice of that and saw well 650 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:13,580 this is a perfect place to create a 651 00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:15,770 secret base and it was just the right 652 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:17,480 combination of factors that came 653 00:31:21,910 --> 00:31:20,330 together here for Nevada compared to 654 00:31:28,330 --> 00:31:21,920 what's happened in the rest of our 655 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:28,340 country now you you were on the cover of 656 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:32,150 our book the area 51 warning keep out we 657 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:35,710 have a special blurb actually where we 658 00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:38,440 state that you had a time warp 659 00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:43,790 experience out near area 51 and some 660 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:45,470 people have gotten in touch with me and 661 00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:47,810 said well geez have to also tell that 662 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:49,790 story on the air because it is a 663 00:31:54,430 --> 00:31:50,870 personal experience 664 00:31:57,670 --> 00:31:54,440 what exactly happened to you in relation 665 00:32:00,700 --> 00:31:57,680 to time warps well you know I came here 666 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:00,710 to Nevada for many reasons for one thing 667 00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:04,870 I do get a lot of work in television and 668 00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:07,700 I have two shows that will be coming out 669 00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:11,000 soon for example and I don't want to 670 00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:15,200 live in Los Angeles and so Las Vegas 671 00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:17,150 seemed like a really cool place because 672 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:19,790 my wife and I don't have any kids and we 673 00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:20,990 can go out and enjoy all the 674 00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:23,240 entertainment here you don't have to 675 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:27,680 worry about flooding and hurricanes Lee 676 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:29,390 and I you got a rumor I just finished 677 00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:31,310 dealing with a hurricane and in Puerto 678 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:33,470 Rico and so there were a lot of things 679 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:35,210 that maybe attracted to come here but 680 00:32:40,810 --> 00:32:38,210 when I came here I was just looking for 681 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:40,820 a good excuse to make that drive to area 682 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:44,240 51 and so it was fortuitous when I got 683 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:46,790 contacted by Silicon Valley engineer 684 00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:49,730 named Ronald Heath and Ronald Heath had 685 00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:52,160 been following my work for years and he 686 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:55,430 said I have created a device for the guy 687 00:33:01,420 --> 00:32:58,730 who has every other device every other 688 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:01,430 meter in the world I said you have my 689 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:02,000 attention 690 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:03,950 so 691 00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:07,250 basically Ronald Heath was a fan of the 692 00:33:11,020 --> 00:33:09,320 x-files and there was an episode of the 693 00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:11,030 x-files where molder takes two 694 00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:13,660 stopwatches and he synchronizes them and 695 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:17,000 then he leaves one at his car and he 696 00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:19,940 takes the other to a UFO hotspot and 697 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:21,830 then when he compares them later they're 698 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:24,410 out of sync so the implication is there 699 00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:27,250 was some kind of gravity ie spaced 700 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:30,440 space-time distorting technology that 701 00:33:35,650 --> 00:33:32,570 may have been used at the at the UFO 702 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,660 hotspot so Ronald Heath decided to make 703 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:37,760 the first user-friendly device that 704 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,190 would duplicate this so his device 705 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:42,080 called the differential time rate meter 706 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:47,620 or DT meter has a sensor and a display 707 00:33:52,750 --> 00:33:50,450 so basically the display looks like a 708 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:52,760 calculator screen zero point zero zero 709 00:33:59,130 --> 00:33:55,370 zero zero zero for eight decimal points 710 00:34:02,710 --> 00:33:59,140 and then then you have a sensor and 711 00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:02,720 they're connected by a 100-foot cable 712 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:05,630 and each of these things the display 713 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:07,910 unit and the sensor have an identical 714 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:10,730 quartz crystal in them and that crystal 715 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:13,850 is oscillating at about a million times 716 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:15,890 per second okay that's basically what 717 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:18,770 this thing is going and so he said these 718 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:21,650 things should always stay in sync but 719 00:34:27,550 --> 00:34:24,140 we'll give them a margin of error as 720 00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:27,560 well a very healthy margin of error just 721 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:29,270 in case but there might be some 722 00:34:34,630 --> 00:34:32,150 electrical problem or some it's a Blanc 723 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:34,640 story short within this margin of error 724 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:37,310 these things should always stay in sync 725 00:34:42,430 --> 00:34:39,530 because you're not supposed to have a 726 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:42,440 difference between the two in the span 727 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:46,160 of 100 feet here on planet Earth unless 728 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,750 something major is happening like a 729 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:49,760 black hole is approaching or something 730 00:34:55,390 --> 00:34:53,690 like that so that said he asked me if I 731 00:34:57,010 --> 00:34:55,400 wanted to be the first person to go take 732 00:35:01,060 --> 00:34:57,020 one of these into the field and I said 733 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:01,070 well heck yeah because area 51 is a 734 00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:03,290 place where people claim there is 735 00:35:08,020 --> 00:35:06,080 technology being experimented with or 736 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:08,030 back-engineered or whatever that 737 00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,360 distorts gravity and space-time i sat 738 00:35:17,710 --> 00:35:13,280 right there in front of Bob Lazar in 739 00:35:19,780 --> 00:35:17,720 person in 2015 and I had him 740 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:19,790 talk about how that he was working on 741 00:35:24,730 --> 00:35:22,430 stuff that was distorting space-time now 742 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:24,740 look I know there are plenty of reasons 743 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,609 not to buy bob lazar story but I've 744 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:30,560 talked to a lot of people just like you 745 00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:33,650 guys have and I think there may be some 746 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:36,200 truth to it so therefore I thought well 747 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:40,480 okay if this place area 51 is 748 00:35:47,830 --> 00:35:44,330 experimenting on on a grand scale let me 749 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:47,840 take this dt meter there and every 20 750 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:49,670 miles on the way there and back I'll 751 00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:51,770 stop in the desert and get a control get 752 00:35:58,570 --> 00:35:54,680 a baseline the idea was that maybe it'll 753 00:36:00,970 --> 00:35:58,580 be normal up until I get to area 51 and 754 00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:00,980 then all of a sudden I get some kind of 755 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:03,740 weird reading well I so I did that I 756 00:36:08,589 --> 00:36:05,930 went out there I stayed overnight I came 757 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:08,599 back I took my readings every 20 miles 758 00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:12,050 and the funny thing is around area 51 759 00:36:17,099 --> 00:36:13,460 everything was normal 760 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,109 however there was this one site 761 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:19,760 approximately 20 miles north of Las 762 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:22,190 Vegas this nondescript area on the side 763 00:36:29,650 --> 00:36:26,930 of the road where I got according to the 764 00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:29,660 DT meter the one and only anomaly I've 765 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:31,550 ever gotten with the DT meter and I've 766 00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:33,430 used this thing under extreme 767 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:35,420 circumstances and lightning and 768 00:36:39,579 --> 00:36:37,640 thunderstorms and when it's a hundred to 769 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:39,589 fifteen degrees and when it's snowing 770 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:41,960 I've used it all kinds of situations I 771 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:44,420 got a reading that indicated that time 772 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:47,210 had slowed down by 25 microseconds per 773 00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:51,410 second so what that means is if you take 774 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:53,060 a second and you slice it up into a 775 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:55,730 hundred thousand little pieces 25 of 776 00:37:01,150 --> 00:36:58,640 those slowed down now that doesn't sound 777 00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:01,160 like a big deal but it's not supposed to 778 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:04,520 happen but the biggest thing was I found 779 00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:07,609 out after the fact that this is an area 780 00:37:14,170 --> 00:37:10,220 where not only a lot of people have 781 00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:14,180 gotten strange footage but also had 782 00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:16,700 full-blown Close Encounters there's a 783 00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,190 man named Shawn Kevin Jason who had a 784 00:37:24,849 --> 00:37:21,920 full-blown close encounter there I went 785 00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:24,859 with him in person back out to the site 786 00:37:31,089 --> 00:37:27,980 on camera and he said yes this is where 787 00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:31,099 this happened in 1996 and he told me all 788 00:37:36,140 --> 00:37:32,040 of 789 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:36,150 and he's not the only one so I thought 790 00:37:40,580 --> 00:37:38,040 to myself well what are the chances that 791 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:40,590 this spot on the way to area 51 792 00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:42,840 for whatever reason is where I got this 793 00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:46,860 anomaly on the dt meter and in Ronald 794 00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,500 Heath is ecstatic he says that's amazing 795 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:50,880 because he's been trying to get the 796 00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:53,190 anomaly for months that way at that 797 00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:54,870 point for months and he'd been logging 798 00:38:01,580 --> 00:37:57,900 his data 24/7 never gotten anything I 799 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:01,590 got that turns out to be a UFO hot spot 800 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:05,490 so we we dig into this question what 801 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:08,370 what's going on here is this because an 802 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:10,710 alien and a spacecraft was flying 803 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,930 overhead at the time is this because the 804 00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:14,880 government was doing an experiment at 805 00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:18,300 the time is this because that there's 806 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:21,180 something natural here that relates to 807 00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:23,430 what I just said about the composition 808 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:25,820 of the land that creates these anomalies 809 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,530 this is a very complex subject that we 810 00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:31,440 can could dig into for hours but I do 811 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:35,070 find it intriguing that in fact that 812 00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:37,970 month when I was doing my research 813 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:40,560 apparently the US government was 814 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:43,230 experimenting with some kind of a new 815 00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:45,930 quote-unquote nuclear weapon 816 00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:49,260 that was being tested in the vicinity 817 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:51,830 now that's not supposed to change 818 00:38:57,820 --> 00:38:54,990 space-time but it's another example of 819 00:39:01,640 --> 00:38:57,830 how what I got may have been this 820 00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:01,650 serendipitous moment when they were 821 00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:04,020 doing some kind of experimentation with 822 00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:06,660 this alien technology as I was out there 823 00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:09,120 taking measurements but the last thing I 824 00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:10,350 want to say and I know I'm being a 825 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:11,670 little long-winded here but the last 826 00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:13,770 thing I want to say is I'm not the only 827 00:39:18,110 --> 00:39:15,510 person who has captured this kind of 828 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,120 thing I was apparently the first person 829 00:39:22,850 --> 00:39:20,240 to capture this as a civilian but 830 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:22,860 shortly thereafter that David Politis 831 00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:24,930 was on the History Channel 832 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:29,160 with a show called vanished and he had a 833 00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,730 group of bonafide rocket scientists with 834 00:39:38,060 --> 00:39:35,520 their PhDs out there at Mesa Verde and 835 00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:38,070 Colorado at a site where people would 836 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:40,740 disappear and they used a completely 837 00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:43,830 separate system with lasers and prisms 838 00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:45,540 and they said they 839 00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:49,590 also found a time anomaly so I predict 840 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:51,870 that these things whether natural or 841 00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:55,170 artificial are strewn all around our 842 00:39:59,900 --> 00:39:57,300 planet and eventually we're going to be 843 00:40:02,120 --> 00:39:59,910 able to connect the dots overlay them 844 00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:02,130 with places where people experience the 845 00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:04,470 paranormal and we will find a connection 846 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:07,020 that will give us insight and to why and 847 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:13,410 how all of these things occur Tim it 848 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,480 makes makes me wonder if maybe that 849 00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:18,000 wasn't the same location or close by to 850 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:21,920 where Paul Sands and his close encounter 851 00:40:26,810 --> 00:40:24,990 well you know there have been quite a 852 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:26,820 number of people and we document that 853 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:28,890 documented as much as possible talk 854 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:33,240 about it in the in our book people that 855 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:37,050 went out to area 51 and had some sort of 856 00:40:42,890 --> 00:40:39,390 experience there there was a fellow of 857 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:42,900 visiting from England who claims that he 858 00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:46,290 had missing time and he woke up with his 859 00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:48,630 wife her came to with his wife and they 860 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:50,220 were and they ended up in a trailer park 861 00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:51,810 they don't know how they got there or 862 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:55,020 what they were doing there and also he 863 00:41:03,010 --> 00:41:00,960 claims that they were abducted why well 864 00:41:06,350 --> 00:41:03,020 he thought at first that they were 865 00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:06,360 aliens or extraterrestrials but he 866 00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:08,310 figured out later on that they were 867 00:41:16,850 --> 00:41:12,870 really the US military in the skies know 868 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:16,860 as part of what they call an MKULTRA the 869 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:20,520 program and a lot of these alien bases 870 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:23,070 that we talk about are these military 871 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:25,860 bases that we speak up they are supposed 872 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:28,410 to you know continue underground they 873 00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:30,510 have all sorts of underground tunnels 874 00:41:36,310 --> 00:41:33,360 and chambers and bunkers some of which 875 00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:36,320 are supposedly occupied by these 876 00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:39,180 extraterrestrial beings according to 877 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:41,940 John Lear and and and some of the other 878 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:44,970 folks who have been involved in making 879 00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:47,490 statements about area 51 or have been 880 00:41:51,350 --> 00:41:48,750 out there and had sightings and 881 00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,360 experiences the government some years 882 00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:54,000 ago actually made a treaty here came up 883 00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:56,910 with a treaty with some of these beings 884 00:42:03,740 --> 00:41:58,980 a group of 885 00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:03,750 Gray's perhaps and there been all kinds 886 00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:04,980 of things they've been reported out 887 00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:07,829 there that would seem to perhaps justify 888 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:12,740 some some of us thinking well what Josh 889 00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:17,430 I would just say sometime I hope that 890 00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,380 you you take this device to some haunted 891 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:26,339 locations you know places that are you 892 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:28,410 know like really haunted you know high 893 00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,660 poltergeist activity or whatever to see 894 00:42:34,819 --> 00:42:33,750 if you get any kind of results and in a 895 00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:34,829 location like that 896 00:42:39,859 --> 00:42:37,740 well you're right Tim because that is 897 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:39,869 exactly what needs to happen I need to 898 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:42,570 take this and anything that spins off 899 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,740 from this to places where people have 900 00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:48,960 psychic experiences they see cryptids 901 00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,230 they see ghosts they see UFOs they have 902 00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:55,859 time slips and of course I can't do it 903 00:42:59,780 --> 00:42:58,260 all myself so it's nice that to know 904 00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:59,790 there are people who are learning about 905 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:01,380 this they're listening to your program 906 00:43:06,349 --> 00:43:03,300 right now they're learning that this 907 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:06,359 exists and eventually we'll have enough 908 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,490 people out there gathering data that 909 00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:11,520 will start getting it done and you know 910 00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:14,339 before we have to wrap up this hour I 911 00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:16,440 just want to also make this point and I 912 00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:19,230 think it's a very important one anybody 913 00:43:25,339 --> 00:43:21,240 who's listening tonight who is 914 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:25,349 interested in area 51 may find this 915 00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:27,930 whole thing very confusing it's Hall of 916 00:43:32,809 --> 00:43:30,300 Mirrors you can't even trust what the 917 00:43:37,809 --> 00:43:32,819 media is telling you and and that should 918 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:37,819 make sense but what I can say is in my 919 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:42,480 opinion in my life and and being right 920 00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:46,200 here at this time in history if you 921 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:50,460 really want to get the most honest sense 922 00:43:56,059 --> 00:43:53,250 the most honest taste of what is 923 00:44:00,140 --> 00:43:56,069 actually happening at area 51 you have 924 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:00,150 to buy this book area 51 warning keep 925 00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:03,359 out and as you both know I'm not making 926 00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:05,940 any money off of this I'm just telling 927 00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:08,430 you that I was happy and honored to be a 928 00:44:12,859 --> 00:44:11,190 contributor and you know it'sit's 929 00:44:16,339 --> 00:44:12,869 unbelievably accessible 930 00:44:19,579 --> 00:44:16,349 and affordable on Amazon and so you know 931 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:19,589 if somebody really wants to know what's 932 00:44:24,739 --> 00:44:22,710 going on well you know you have the best 933 00:44:26,989 --> 00:44:24,749 experts in the world here all put 934 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:26,999 together great they're very candid so 935 00:44:32,359 --> 00:44:29,730 get that book I and you know we had to 936 00:44:37,089 --> 00:44:32,369 up the price I was losing a dollar and a 937 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:40,099 I'm a terrific I'm a terrific publisher 938 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:42,329 gentleman publisher that's that's that's 939 00:44:46,789 --> 00:44:44,490 what I am but even now it's as 940 00:44:48,799 --> 00:44:46,799 reasonable as you can get 941 00:44:51,739 --> 00:44:48,809 well now what exactly you're you're 942 00:44:55,940 --> 00:44:51,749 doing it you do a show out there in in 943 00:44:59,720 --> 00:44:55,950 Vegas a UFO yeah it's called the creepy 944 00:45:01,579 --> 00:44:59,730 Vegas ghosts and UFOs show there is 945 00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:01,589 nothing like it in the world 946 00:45:08,509 --> 00:45:05,400 i bill it as sixty fun paranormal 947 00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:08,519 minutes in a bar there's this bar here 948 00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,400 it's called millennium fandom it's in a 949 00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:13,980 great location because it's in downtown 950 00:45:19,819 --> 00:45:16,680 Vegas it's right near zak bagans haunted 951 00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,829 Museum and the Pawn Stars shop you know 952 00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:21,839 everybody knows the Pawn Stars TV show 953 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:27,839 and so it's a pop culture bar where they 954 00:45:32,839 --> 00:45:31,170 do cosplay they have movie relics and 955 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:32,849 movie reproductions and it's just a 956 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:35,160 really nice it's it's very it's like a 957 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:38,480 really clean classy cool slick 958 00:45:44,569 --> 00:45:40,680 sophisticated place and they have this 959 00:45:47,539 --> 00:45:44,579 area called the gallery and we have a 960 00:45:51,049 --> 00:45:47,549 huge screen there so every Saturday at 7 961 00:45:52,819 --> 00:45:51,059 p.m. we have this 60-minute show where 962 00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:52,829 you get to see the best evidence we've 963 00:45:59,720 --> 00:45:55,980 got for ghosts UFOs cryptids psychic 964 00:46:03,109 --> 00:45:59,730 phenomena not just around Nevada but 965 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:03,119 also other places as well and I'm there 966 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,190 as often as possible but even when I 967 00:46:10,549 --> 00:46:08,400 can't be there I hired local Nick weird 968 00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:10,559 to be the host so if anybody's 969 00:46:16,249 --> 00:46:13,049 interested go to creepy Vegas calm 970 00:46:18,259 --> 00:46:16,259 creepy Vegas calm I don't know if we're 971 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,269 gonna take a break from doing this for a 972 00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:20,880 while but currently you can go to creepy 973 00:46:26,330 --> 00:46:23,220 Vegas comm and sign up for the rest of 974 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:29,240 well we we must again tell people who 975 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:33,300 are planning to go out there to area 51 976 00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:35,910 to to heed the warnings and make sure 977 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:38,520 that you have taken all the necessary of 978 00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:40,890 precautions got a full tank of gas and 979 00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:45,600 you got plenty of water and you got air 980 00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:49,020 in your tires and have a good time above 981 00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,270 all else and don't storm the damn base 982 00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:53,460 don't take a chance because the least 983 00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:55,350 that is going to happen is they're gonna 984 00:46:59,330 --> 00:46:57,900 arrest your ass and you're going to 985 00:47:02,690 --> 00:46:59,340 spend the night in jail and get fined 986 00:47:04,490 --> 00:47:02,700 the $600 and there's a lot better things 987 00:47:06,980 --> 00:47:04,500 that you can do with that money 988 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:06,990 like what are a bunch of books from us 989 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:10,110 that's what I would say anyway Josh it's 990 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,000 always a pleasure to and to speak with 991 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:12,330 you 992 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:19,170 all this time and that we've remained 993 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:22,490 friends and look forward to your next 994 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:25,230 exploit you got any any books coming out 995 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,410 of your own uh no actually I'm working 996 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:30,720 on some research projects right now and 997 00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:32,610 and that's sort of what I'm focusing on 998 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:34,920 and I think I may have some interesting 999 00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:37,200 stuff to tell you about soon but Tim 1000 00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,560 look you're you're a wonderful guy Tim 1001 00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,720 you're a wonderful guy and thank you 1002 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,700 both for having me on and you know 1003 00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:47,040 you're doing great work you have a great 1004 00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:50,280 insight into area 51 and we'll talk to 1005 00:48:02,280 --> 00:47:53,070 you when this is all over all right stay 1006 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:06,760 explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride 1007 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:09,250 into the world of the paranoid 1008 00:48:16,829 --> 00:48:12,530 strap yourself in as we traverse the 1009 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:16,839 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 1010 00:48:22,329 --> 00:48:19,960 ghosts Lost Worlds 1011 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:22,339 cryptozoology as well as other 1012 00:48:31,329 --> 00:48:26,180 dimensions it's time to take back the 1013 00:48:34,420 --> 00:48:31,339 night now your electrifying hosts of 1014 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:34,430 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 1015 00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:42,880 team sports alright welcome back to more 1016 00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:45,380 exploring the bizarre I'm having so much 1017 00:48:52,210 --> 00:48:47,710 fun tonight talking about area 51 that 1018 00:48:57,220 --> 00:48:52,220 we decided to go for another segment and 1019 00:48:59,920 --> 00:48:57,230 and Tim we've got another great guest 1020 00:49:03,640 --> 00:48:59,930 with us and an old friend who's been on 1021 00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:03,650 the show before Paul Dale Roberts and a 1022 00:49:09,790 --> 00:49:06,500 contributor are you doing yes and a 1023 00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:09,800 computer on the area 51 morning Keith 1024 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,380 out there for some of something things 1025 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,240 that happened to him out near area 51 1026 00:49:19,390 --> 00:49:16,640 that we're gonna find out about but you 1027 00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:19,400 know a pauper of the people who have not 1028 00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:21,589 beg you on the show before it was just a 1029 00:49:27,010 --> 00:49:24,380 brief uh rundown about how you got into 1030 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:27,020 the into the paranormal because you're 1031 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:29,089 you're one of the the main personalities 1032 00:49:34,359 --> 00:49:31,369 today on the scene you you probably do 1033 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:34,369 more writing and more research than any 1034 00:49:41,819 --> 00:49:36,770 person that I know that's active in the 1035 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:41,829 in the near field oh yeah 1036 00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:44,480 well thank you Tim and Timothy and 1037 00:49:50,349 --> 00:49:47,630 everybody else but I got into the field 1038 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:50,359 because I lived in a haunted house in a 1039 00:49:55,329 --> 00:49:52,250 frustrated Fresno all kinds of terrible 1040 00:49:57,700 --> 00:49:55,339 things were happening to me and as I got 1041 00:50:00,460 --> 00:49:57,710 older I was thinking well was that 1042 00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:00,470 childhood nightmares or did I really 1043 00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:04,579 witness the paranormal so what happened 1044 00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:06,740 was from there I just started reading a 1045 00:50:13,870 --> 00:50:10,990 lot of books thanks bye brats tiger 1046 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:13,880 erich von daniken I started getting into 1047 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:15,010 UFOs 1048 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:18,450 and got into military intelligence and 1049 00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:21,490 one of the things that I did when I went 1050 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:25,359 into military intelligence if I said if 1051 00:50:32,670 --> 00:50:30,160 anyone knows if UFOs is a real 1052 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:32,680 phenomenon it would be military 1053 00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:35,170 intelligence so I was a 97 Bravo 1054 00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:38,020 intelligence analyst and uh you know on 1055 00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:41,830 one particular day six photographs came 1056 00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:45,270 in and those six photographs represented 1057 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:49,119 reconnaissance aerial photos by our 1058 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:53,770 satellites and on those six photos were 1059 00:51:00,990 --> 00:50:56,770 different type of UFOs cigar shape one 1060 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:01,000 dish shape etc etc and they represented 1061 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:03,910 each photo represented a full-length 1062 00:51:10,859 --> 00:51:07,450 video which I did not see and on the 1063 00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:10,869 back of each photo just said intelligent 1064 00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:14,230 movement and at that point of time I 1065 00:51:22,349 --> 00:51:18,160 said Wow okay our military intelligence 1066 00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:22,359 is still investigating UFOs even though 1067 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:24,270 Project Blue Book's been closed down 1068 00:51:29,609 --> 00:51:27,250 military intelligence is still looking 1069 00:51:32,910 --> 00:51:29,619 into it and those photographs went to 1070 00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:32,920 the DIA Defense Intelligence Agency and 1071 00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:36,280 from there to CIA and into a black hole 1072 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:38,080 because I never heard about them again 1073 00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:39,910 the only thing I did with the 1074 00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:45,400 photographs would give them a number and 1075 00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:48,609 little did I know from their military 1076 00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:52,600 intelligence and in my time in the 1077 00:51:57,359 --> 00:51:55,540 service before from 73 76 I was working 1078 00:52:01,099 --> 00:51:57,369 a CID Criminal Investigation Division 1079 00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:01,109 direct suppression team in Germany and 1080 00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:03,400 79 86 1081 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:05,830 I was with military intelligence later 1082 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:09,930 on and got an H identifier and which 1083 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:13,840 this instructor qualified and I was 1084 00:52:19,650 --> 00:52:16,240 teaching the Soviet threat the top-floor 1085 00:52:23,010 --> 00:52:19,660 opposing forces so it's all that 1086 00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:23,020 happening for me I came across a ghost 1087 00:52:28,059 --> 00:52:25,060 hunter and she says Paul you ought to 1088 00:52:30,789 --> 00:52:28,069 join us and write a story of 1089 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:30,799 our investigation so I did in that first 1090 00:52:39,819 --> 00:52:34,249 article that I wrote was published in 1091 00:52:41,529 --> 00:52:39,829 some magazine in Oakland and they kept 1092 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:41,539 me and they said well well write more 1093 00:52:50,370 --> 00:52:45,410 stories and before I knew that the owner 1094 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:50,380 of that paranormal group HPI 1095 00:52:56,890 --> 00:52:54,170 she quit and I am now the owner of it 1096 00:53:02,249 --> 00:52:56,900 along with my wife Deanna Jackson 1097 00:53:13,259 --> 00:53:08,289 alright so in in our book area51 warning 1098 00:53:19,390 --> 00:53:13,269 keep out you have a really excellent 1099 00:53:22,979 --> 00:53:19,400 chapter concerning them your travels to 1100 00:53:26,410 --> 00:53:22,989 that area so why don't you tell us about 1101 00:53:30,189 --> 00:53:26,420 why you decided to go out there in the 1102 00:53:31,959 --> 00:53:30,199 first place the reason why I wanted to 1103 00:53:35,799 --> 00:53:31,969 go out there was to talk to the people 1104 00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:35,809 and you can learn so much just by 1105 00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:38,630 talking to residents of Rachel Nevada 1106 00:53:43,539 --> 00:53:42,559 and one of the ladies that worked at the 1107 00:53:46,809 --> 00:53:43,549 alien 1108 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:46,819 oh no she still works her or not but she 1109 00:53:55,299 --> 00:53:50,930 told me that oh one point of time living 1110 00:53:59,019 --> 00:53:55,309 out there she saw this crap and inside 1111 00:54:02,109 --> 00:53:59,029 the craft was a human occupant a pilot 1112 00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:02,119 and it came I level to her it was 1113 00:54:10,059 --> 00:54:05,599 hovering it wasn't making any noise and 1114 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:10,069 he waved at her and took off and I 1115 00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:12,410 thought that was an amazing story and 1116 00:54:17,709 --> 00:54:14,599 she had a person who actually backed up 1117 00:54:22,569 --> 00:54:17,719 her story said that he actually saw it 1118 00:54:26,229 --> 00:54:22,579 as it came I leveled to her so with that 1119 00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:26,239 and when we got there the people at the 1120 00:54:33,279 --> 00:54:29,089 alien they were so nice they let let us 1121 00:54:35,849 --> 00:54:33,289 camp out in the parking lot and they 1122 00:54:40,029 --> 00:54:35,859 actually took us to an abandoned village 1123 00:54:41,830 --> 00:54:40,039 near area 51 and people that used to 1124 00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:41,840 live in those homes 1125 00:54:48,190 --> 00:54:45,350 work at area 51 and why the village is 1126 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:48,200 abend they didn't know but they were 1127 00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:50,570 saying that the place was haunted so we 1128 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:52,700 actually did an investigation over there 1129 00:55:01,060 --> 00:54:55,330 got some EVPs electronic voice phenomena 1130 00:55:03,010 --> 00:55:01,070 and then we did a Night Watch and three 1131 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:03,020 of the investigators said that they saw 1132 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:06,530 what was considered a starlight UFOs 1133 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:09,410 they were moving erratically in the sky 1134 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:13,730 I didn't see them I was busy talking to 1135 00:55:23,650 --> 00:55:18,290 other people we got to the back gate the 1136 00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:23,660 next day and often the hillside I could 1137 00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:25,550 see a guy looking at me with binoculars 1138 00:55:34,740 --> 00:55:29,110 and I was looking at him with binoculars 1139 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:34,750 and before I knew it he was pulling 1140 00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:39,280 taken off this rifle from his backside 1141 00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:42,740 and pointing it towards me it'll look 1142 00:55:50,350 --> 00:55:45,020 like what would I consider a sniper 1143 00:55:55,780 --> 00:55:50,360 rifle and I said okay there it is 1144 00:55:58,510 --> 00:55:55,790 I don't like how close were you to the 1145 00:56:00,700 --> 00:55:58,520 yeah I say the gate there isn't really a 1146 00:56:03,850 --> 00:56:00,710 gate there it's kind of like a land a 1147 00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:03,860 line in the sand and a sign or two that 1148 00:56:10,090 --> 00:56:06,740 says no you know trespassing of course 1149 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:10,100 can be used how close were you to going 1150 00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,810 over that line um I was pretty close I 1151 00:56:20,050 --> 00:56:16,880 was snapping a lot of photos I would say 1152 00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:20,060 I was about three feet in front of the 1153 00:56:28,540 --> 00:56:24,590 line and the sniper he was about 300 1154 00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:28,550 yards away from me mm and I was checking 1155 00:56:36,700 --> 00:56:30,830 everything out with binoculars taking a 1156 00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:36,710 lot of photos and that's when he pointed 1157 00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:40,310 his rifle towards me and I said I think 1158 00:56:45,790 --> 00:56:43,790 it's time for us to go and then later on 1159 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:45,800 as we were going down the road there was 1160 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:49,970 a jeep over on parallel from us and you 1161 00:56:54,650 --> 00:56:52,610 could see the dust it was making as it 1162 00:56:59,240 --> 00:56:54,660 was going 1163 00:57:04,660 --> 00:56:59,250 on our site as we're headed out so it 1164 00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:04,670 was it was sort of unnerving you know 1165 00:57:11,330 --> 00:57:07,710 you know they had the private aid the 1166 00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:11,340 private agency it's not that it's kind 1167 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:12,870 of strange that the military doesn't 1168 00:57:19,730 --> 00:57:15,450 guard the area 51 they've hired a 1169 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:19,740 private security a Wackenhut indeed 1170 00:57:24,830 --> 00:57:21,810 Wackenhut in fact you know right here in 1171 00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:24,840 Manhattan they do have the security for 1172 00:57:29,260 --> 00:57:27,240 private businesses and stuff and every 1173 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:29,270 once a while I'll see a little of the 1174 00:57:34,750 --> 00:57:31,770 car I guess that's what you would 1175 00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:34,760 describe it you know like a one-seater 1176 00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:37,950 rolling down the the the street that'll 1177 00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:40,350 say whack and however yes I die I once 1178 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:43,110 asked one of the security people I said 1179 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:45,570 you know anything about any aliens and 1180 00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:47,310 at first he kind of just looked at me 1181 00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:48,870 like what are you crazy or something 1182 00:57:53,540 --> 00:57:51,990 then I guess he he he you know he caught 1183 00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:53,550 on and kind of just smiled and got back 1184 00:57:58,310 --> 00:57:56,280 in his little go-cart and and took off 1185 00:58:00,050 --> 00:57:58,320 but you know you know there there have 1186 00:58:02,510 --> 00:58:00,060 been you talk about people there that 1187 00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:02,520 have work at the alien little alien and 1188 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,110 Pat who's been the owner for at 31 years 1189 00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:08,880 she told me and I got a quote here that 1190 00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:11,460 I think right out of the book she said 1191 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:13,680 we felt their presence around here one 1192 00:58:17,810 --> 00:58:15,690 day after we had locked up the bar a 1193 00:58:19,610 --> 00:58:17,820 beam of light shot through the closed 1194 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:19,620 door and we could sense that something 1195 00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:21,090 had entered here 1196 00:58:25,610 --> 00:58:22,800 we told them out loud that they were 1197 00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:25,620 welcome to anything we had as long as 1198 00:58:30,740 --> 00:58:27,540 they came in peace we don't feel that 1199 00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:30,750 they meant us any harm it at all so 1200 00:58:37,660 --> 00:58:34,950 you've got again that this economy of 1201 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:37,670 good guys versus bad guys because 1202 00:58:43,820 --> 00:58:39,930 supposedly from what we hear there's 1203 00:58:46,850 --> 00:58:43,830 some fairly negative forces working 1204 00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:46,860 around the the base but not necessarily 1205 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:49,110 the some of the things that have 1206 00:58:53,810 --> 00:58:52,050 happened to people there it's been a 1207 00:58:57,250 --> 00:58:53,820 little bit of both positive and a little 1208 00:59:01,760 --> 00:58:57,260 bit of negative now did you have a 1209 00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:01,770 sighting while you were out there we did 1210 00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:04,880 a Night Watch and we were up all night 1211 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:08,280 and three of the investigators I was 1212 00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:10,410 talking to somebody in the alien so I 1213 00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:14,430 did not witness it but they I heard them 1214 00:59:20,540 --> 00:59:17,670 like screaming and I'm I ran outside oh 1215 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:20,550 yeah what was it what was it and they 1216 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:22,890 claimed that they saw three star light 1217 00:59:31,070 --> 00:59:26,730 type UFOs that were moving erratically 1218 00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:31,080 and now when we went to the gate one of 1219 00:59:36,290 --> 00:59:33,420 the investigators and I don't know I 1220 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:36,300 sort of had a hard time believing it but 1221 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:41,010 she says as the Jeep was following us on 1222 00:59:45,980 --> 00:59:42,090 our side 1223 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:45,990 she said above the hill there was a UFO 1224 00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:49,290 that came up and they went back down and 1225 00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:51,990 nobody else saw it she was the only one 1226 01:00:03,230 --> 00:59:55,350 who saw it so I was kind of questionable 1227 01:00:05,660 --> 01:00:03,240 if I didn't but your wife who is a very 1228 01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:05,670 good this psychic and it's sensitive has 1229 01:00:09,650 --> 01:00:07,710 she picked up anything like vibration 1230 01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:09,660 wise I mean does she think that there's 1231 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,390 aliens out there or is the government 1232 01:00:20,330 --> 01:00:14,880 doing the reverse of technology reverse 1233 01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:20,340 engineering now my wife has never been 1234 01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:25,110 to area 51 she does yeah she does County 1235 01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:28,470 I when I went to area 51 I didn't even 1236 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:31,470 know her then but um but she has the 1237 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:34,170 power I would say to uncloak UFOs 1238 01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:37,770 because right here in our town of Elk 1239 01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,680 Grove where we're going right down the 1240 01:00:44,540 --> 01:00:42,960 road and she goes pull into the parking 1241 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:44,550 lot pull into the parking lot I'm gonna 1242 01:00:50,330 --> 01:00:47,130 go why she goes don't ask me why just 1243 01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:50,340 pull into the parking lot I said ah okay 1244 01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:51,900 so I pull into the parking lot she goes 1245 01:00:55,850 --> 01:00:53,310 there's something in this guy right 1246 01:00:58,460 --> 01:00:55,860 there and I'm looking at the sky I don't 1247 01:01:01,040 --> 01:00:58,470 see nothing and she doesn't see anything 1248 01:01:05,170 --> 01:01:01,050 and she takes her camera she snaps a 1249 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:05,180 photo and that's where she gets three 1250 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:07,170 disc-shaped UFOs 1251 01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:12,090 glowing and be formation and that 1252 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:15,660 picture was actually well I actually 1253 01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:17,910 submitted it to me font and they were 1254 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:21,420 unable to dispute it 1255 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:26,970 and 14 times actually did a full 1256 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:30,210 write-up on her and actually published 1257 01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,050 that photo in fourteen times so that was 1258 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:37,200 totally amazing is she she's done some 1259 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:39,450 other incredible stuff with UFOs because 1260 01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:43,410 you know as a child she says that she 1261 01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:44,280 was abducted 1262 01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:46,590 and that's how she gained her psychic 1263 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:49,020 powers she can see ghosts and stuff like 1264 01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:52,650 that and she does I feel she does have 1265 01:01:59,480 --> 01:01:56,310 that ability to uncloak UFOs and I would 1266 01:02:01,820 --> 01:01:59,490 love to take her area51 about now with 1267 01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:01,830 all the publicity going on with area 51 1268 01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:07,110 I mean there's like rumors that they 1269 01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:11,040 moved the base to either Utah or 1270 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:15,960 Colorado so if they're back engineering 1271 01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:18,930 UFOs probably would be in Colorado in 1272 01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:19,790 each other 1273 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:23,670 probably not area 41 anymore well you 1274 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:26,130 know it's quite you know people think 1275 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:28,170 that they're gonna if they storm the 1276 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:31,410 base they they get go past the the guard 1277 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,050 post there that they're going to find 1278 01:02:37,850 --> 01:02:36,000 you know aliens to set now in beach 1279 01:02:39,770 --> 01:02:37,860 chairs or something and I don't think 1280 01:02:42,530 --> 01:02:39,780 that I don't think that's quite the way 1281 01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:42,540 that it that it works it's a huge how 1282 01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:46,860 how many how many square miles is well 1283 01:02:53,210 --> 01:02:49,680 it area 51 we're really talking about 1284 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:53,220 the broom broom Blake and s5 with all 1285 01:03:01,250 --> 01:02:56,970 these other oh yeah well I mean it's 1286 01:03:02,660 --> 01:03:01,260 it's part of a whole Nellis complex so I 1287 01:03:05,690 --> 01:03:02,670 mean so yeah I mean you're you're 1288 01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:05,700 talking about just miles and miles and 1289 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:09,480 miles first of all open desert and then 1290 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:12,900 you know area 51 you know paradise ranch 1291 01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:14,730 groom lake you know whatever you'd want 1292 01:03:22,490 --> 01:03:16,680 to call it that's really just kind of 1293 01:03:25,130 --> 01:03:22,500 like a small area with within that so if 1294 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:25,140 you would manage to get past that I 1295 01:03:30,260 --> 01:03:29,010 guess somebody who's like either I think 1296 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:30,270 was yesterday 1297 01:03:35,089 --> 01:03:34,650 some tourists from Norway or Denmark or 1298 01:03:41,059 --> 01:03:35,099 some 1299 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:41,069 says that area 51 is about 600 square 1300 01:03:49,370 --> 01:03:46,559 miles so yeah if you do manage to evade 1301 01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:49,380 Wackenhut and get over it you know 1302 01:03:55,069 --> 01:03:52,710 get over the that line you've got a lot 1303 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:55,079 of desert that that you have to get 1304 01:03:59,509 --> 01:03:57,690 through in order to get anywhere but you 1305 01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,519 you'd never be able to get that far I 1306 01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:02,160 mean there's helicopters there's the you 1307 01:04:05,779 --> 01:04:04,920 know the pickup trucks the SUVs the 1308 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:05,789 grounds 1309 01:04:13,370 --> 01:04:09,690 you know there's sensory devices there's 1310 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:13,380 cameras there's microphones you know 1311 01:04:19,549 --> 01:04:16,410 they can see you coming for miles away 1312 01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,559 and guards with guns guards with guns 1313 01:04:24,529 --> 01:04:21,839 rights right well that is poled all in 1314 01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:24,539 you know that guy was would you say 300 1315 01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:28,440 feet 300 yards away oh yeah I mean a 1316 01:04:33,229 --> 01:04:30,839 good sniper I mean he could have gotten 1317 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:33,239 you with a with with that with it you 1318 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:37,650 know with with with one eye closed yeah 1319 01:04:42,229 --> 01:04:38,809 easily 1320 01:04:45,620 --> 01:04:42,239 and recently Bob Lazar with Bob Lazar 1321 01:04:49,579 --> 01:04:45,630 was saying that area 51 itself they 1322 01:04:52,579 --> 01:04:49,589 don't back engineering UFOs only in s7 I 1323 01:04:56,479 --> 01:04:52,589 believe it was s7 that they were back 1324 01:05:02,059 --> 01:04:56,489 engineering UFOs so in your talking you 1325 01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:02,069 know 600 miles of land you know most of 1326 01:05:10,339 --> 01:05:05,839 that land is probably secretive military 1327 01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:10,349 aircraft and but one location which were 1328 01:05:19,099 --> 01:05:14,249 Bob Lazar worked at s7 was where they 1329 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:19,109 had extraterrestrial aircraft that that 1330 01:05:30,349 --> 01:05:21,210 actually crashed land and they were back 1331 01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:30,359 engineering the UFOs yeah that that area 1332 01:05:40,190 --> 01:05:33,119 that Bob Lazar claimed that he worked at 1333 01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:40,200 was was s4 and right yeah I think I 1334 01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:42,150 think that was supposed to be part of 1335 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:45,619 the horrors of the the pupusas Lake 1336 01:05:51,230 --> 01:05:48,930 complex built you know 1337 01:05:55,309 --> 01:05:51,240 like hangers you know built to the side 1338 01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:55,319 of the mountain there so yeah and that's 1339 01:06:01,089 --> 01:05:56,640 you know that's one of the things that 1340 01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:01,099 makes the the whole area 51 stories so 1341 01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:07,740 intriguing is lazarre's story which you 1342 01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:09,630 know we've we've noted on this show 1343 01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:13,200 before I mean you know he's he's told it 1344 01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:16,609 all these years and really hasn't 1345 01:06:23,870 --> 01:06:20,220 embellished on it and pretty much stuck 1346 01:06:26,660 --> 01:06:23,880 to his guns that you know that he's 1347 01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:26,670 hadn't really happened to him right and 1348 01:06:31,970 --> 01:06:28,619 there was one individual that I talked 1349 01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:31,980 to at the alien and they said well this 1350 01:06:36,530 --> 01:06:34,200 gentleman here used to worked at area 51 1351 01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:36,540 so I asked him I said you know the 1352 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:39,510 stories that Bob Lazar said okay and I 1353 01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,730 asked some different questions what what 1354 01:06:47,329 --> 01:06:43,680 did you see what did you work on blah 1355 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:47,339 blah he didn't give me any answers but 1356 01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:49,530 he just looked at me and he said one 1357 01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:53,359 thing he said Bob Lazar is correct 1358 01:07:00,200 --> 01:06:57,240 that's all I'm going to say Bob Lazar is 1359 01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:00,210 correct and actually can you elaborate 1360 01:07:05,299 --> 01:07:03,480 on that yes no he goes but I'm just 1361 01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:05,309 going to let you know Bob Lazar is 1362 01:07:10,430 --> 01:07:07,680 correct and you take it for what it's 1363 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:10,440 worth okay do you know III have my own 1364 01:07:15,859 --> 01:07:13,890 feeling on this I think that these 1365 01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:15,869 things that necessarily happen to Bob 1366 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:19,230 Lazar but that he's fronting for someone 1367 01:07:24,260 --> 01:07:22,170 that someone has given him this 1368 01:07:26,650 --> 01:07:24,270 information who does not want to go 1369 01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:26,660 public with it and they have found 1370 01:07:33,319 --> 01:07:29,609 someone who's willing to take let's say 1371 01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:33,329 some of the some of the heat now we have 1372 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:37,440 our own area 51 whistleblower by the 1373 01:07:46,010 --> 01:07:40,410 name of commander X who claims that he's 1374 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:46,020 actually a work out there and some of 1375 01:07:50,089 --> 01:07:48,770 the experiments involving at UFOs and 1376 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:50,099 teleportation 1377 01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:54,089 that he was actually invited that's the 1378 01:08:02,290 --> 01:07:57,569 word inside one of these crafts there 1379 01:08:05,050 --> 01:08:02,300 were of off world their origin and 1380 01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:05,060 told to actually see if he could use 1381 01:08:09,790 --> 01:08:07,670 using a mind power only there were a 1382 01:08:14,170 --> 01:08:09,800 directory in the craft and lift it off 1383 01:08:17,710 --> 01:08:14,180 and fly it and at first he was totally 1384 01:08:20,650 --> 01:08:17,720 unsuccessful he had a try on on three or 1385 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:20,660 four different occasions before he was 1386 01:08:27,309 --> 01:08:23,930 able to get the craft to follow its 1387 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:27,319 direction but apparently there there is 1388 01:08:35,289 --> 01:08:31,310 no the propulsion is totally unknown 1389 01:08:39,610 --> 01:08:35,299 apparently they are able to drive these 1390 01:08:43,059 --> 01:08:39,620 these things through mind power I mean 1391 01:08:47,769 --> 01:08:43,069 these beings if they exist certainly 1392 01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:47,779 seem to be many years in advance of any 1393 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:51,440 technology that we have here anyway I 1394 01:08:56,769 --> 01:08:53,810 see that we're coming up on the end of 1395 01:09:00,640 --> 01:08:56,779 the show here and a full why did you 1396 01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:00,650 tell our listeners where they can find 1397 01:09:08,079 --> 01:09:04,310 out any information about the work that 1398 01:09:11,610 --> 01:09:08,089 you knew your website and so forth okay 1399 01:09:15,190 --> 01:09:11,620 sure all you have to do is just google 1400 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:15,200 my name Paul Dale Roberts you'll find a 1401 01:09:22,660 --> 01:09:18,890 lot of our articles or my wife Deanna 1402 01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:22,670 Jackson Stinson and we do love our 1403 01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:24,920 Colonel stories with Costa Rica teens 1404 01:09:30,220 --> 01:09:27,710 and you can go into topics or go into 1405 01:09:32,860 --> 01:09:30,230 the paranormal section of it and you'll 1406 01:09:40,349 --> 01:09:32,870 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